Each week, we’ll interview one of our experienced Finance Officers for a brief question and answer session about something interesting from the week, along with tips and tricks to make your finance process easier, and their unique perspective on the industries and customers we work with.

This week, we caught up with Travis Van Houten in our Portland office who talks a little bit about how time can be an important factor when trying to help a customer that may have some areas of their credit profile that are not as typical.


Q: Thanks for speaking with me today, Travis. I know you had mentioned there was a particular deal you wanted to talk about that had some obstacles to overcome. What made this transaction so difficult in the first place?

A: This was a repeat customer that came my way who had challenged credit… Probably not your typical C-Credit – strong cash flow and tax returns. 561 and 577 for credit scores. Not only that, but they operate in the logging industry. The logging industry can be tough. Essentially, a lot of places don’t like to work with logging as much. With a low FICO score along with working in the logging industry, we knew we would have some trouble.

Q: What makes the logging industry more difficult?

A: Our funding sources don’t always want to fund that industry. We do have places that will, but if it’s outside their credit guidelines, they will be more hesitant to take that on. You have to find the sources that will look at someone where the credit is poor, not terrible, and in a restrictive industry… We really have to look at a more limited list of people that will work with all of these factors, and that are more cash-flow based. The equipment was also non-titled, which some of these specific funding sources prefer. Strong cash flows and non-titled equipment made this a good look for a couple of these more niche sources.

Q: Any other challenges on this one?

A: Putting together the financials was a hurdle we had to get over. They didn’t really have an accountant that dealt with some of the specific items that we usually grab in these cases, so I had to get together with someone over there who wasn’t as versed in finance, and walk her through what a balance sheet is and an income statement. She was able to do those on QuickBooks and send them my way, and they were pretty strong – they looked good. When it comes down to say, challenged credits… Credit can be one thing, but financials can be another. Some businesses are more cash-based rather than credit-based.

Q: What makes non-titled equipment preferred?

A: That’s a good question. I think it’s because it holds it value better. You’re talking about, say, trucks, on the other end of the spectrum. You put a lot of miles on them and the equipment’s value seems to depreciate a lot faster than, say, a 1996 John Deere Skidder, which will hold it’s value a lot better than a truck would, or a trailer. That’s why we had a little bit more wiggle room with someone that’s a C-Credit, or D-Credit.

Q: How did things progress once you were able to find somewhere to place this deal?

A: They had to put down a more significant security deposit – maybe $16,000 or $19,000 down on a $42,000 piece of equipment. You have to be upfront with the customer on why some of these initial costs may be higher than average, but that we’re doing everything we can on our end to get it done.

Q: So, you would say that customers with a similar profile will probably need to factor in a little more time into these deals in order to get them done?

A: Yeah, that’s a good way to put it. It was taking around a week or a week and a half to find an approval on this one, and the customer was starting to get nervous. I just had to assure them that we were working hard and weren’t giving up until we knew for sure what we were able to do on this deal.

Q: So, in the end, the customer was satisfied with how things turned out?

A: Yeah, we were able to get her the equipment, and she left us a pretty good review when it was all said and done. With situations like this, when you can overcome a lot of the obstacles, it can feel like a great relief when it closes out in a positive way.

Next week we will check in with another one of our finance officers to continue to give prospective on how we are able to help customers just like you! Stay up to date and learn more from our valuable resources at www.AmericanEFS.com/The-Bottom-Line

 

Each week, we’ll interview one of our experienced Finance Officers for a brief question and answer session about something interesting from the week, along with tips and tricks to make your finance process easier, and their unique perspective on the industries and customers we work with.

This week, we caught up with AJ Ochoa in our Portland office who was working with a customer whose credit score and experience created a situation that would have made other lenders turn the other way.


Q: We’ve been continuing to look at customers that are a bit more unconventional in the commercial lending space. Could you tell us a little about this particular customer?

A: This customer had a credit score of 544 and a revolving available credit of only 21%. She didn’t have first-hand experience in the logging industry, which is the industry she wanted to get into. She did mention that her family has been in the logging industry for decades, but she didn’t have any experience. However, she did have the right attitude and the motivation to get started in operating her business. Everything I asked of her she would provide within a couple hours!

Q: Is that lack of personal experience typical?

A: Sure, we have a lot of customers who apply for credit that have no experience in their prospective industry and have poor credit. Often times, we aren’t able to get them approved so it is a bit of a challenge when we do get those customers.

Q: You mentioned she had a credit score of 544. What were some factors that contributed to that score?

A: The main reason her score was so low was the high revolving credit debt. She had some other factors that were positives, which was great, but that high revolving credit debt really brought it down.

Q: Was that something that affected the loan process in this case, and would it affect the loan process in similar cases?

A: It does limit us on offering better financing for challenged credits when they are in the process of opening up their business. She was also trying to finance a piece of equipment which automatically landed her in one of our programs that requires 50% down, which is one way we are able to provide financing for start-ups that have a personal guarantor with poor credit.

Q: How were we able to help this customer?

A: We sent the application to our preferred lenders for this program, and all of them declined except for one. In the end, we were able to get the customer approved with better terms than what we had quoted.

Q: How do you think other customers can learn from this experience?

A: Customers should be aware of the commercial loan process, and how different commercial lenders can help. It IS possible to get an approval with challenged credit but does require a heavier down payment. Be ready for that when you are starting your search.

Q: What can you tell us about how things progressed with your customer?

A: She was able to get her machine so she could start generating revenue for her new business. Once things start picking up, she can quit her full-time job and start focusing more on her business… and have the freedom to do what’s important to her which is caring for her newborn. The payment did seem high to her but she realized that she was going to make almost 20 times more in revenues so it was a no brainer to her.

Next week we will check in with another one of our finance officers to continue to give prospective on how we are able to help customers just like you! Stay up to date and learn more from our valuable resources at www.AmericanEFS.com/The-Bottom-Line

Each week, we’ll interview one of our experienced Finance Officers for a brief question and answer session about something interesting from the week, along with tips and tricks to make your finance process easier, and their unique perspective on the industries and customers we work with.

This week, we caught up with Brian Kirlin in our Sioux Falls office who worked with a customer with a non-traditional profile.


Q: In a previous Q&A, we talked about the fact that we have built a business on helping customers with non-traditional profiles. Was that the case here?

A: Yes, I would certainly say that this customer fits that mold.

Q: What about this customer would have caused other lenders to look the other way?

A: There were actually multiple aspects of the overall credit package which might cause other lenders to stumble. The customer had lots of industry experience but had only had a business of his own for a limited time. The equipment was very soft collateral. In addition, the equipment is rented out and would be moved around from location to location. Finally, the company had made a lot of investments recently and was thus showing a loss on their books.

Q: Did this make the loan process any longer than what you would consider “normal”?

A: No, not really. We were able to wrap up an approval in less than a day after receiving the full package, and we moved as fast as the customer and vendor could provide information needed for closing on the financing.

Q: How were we able to help this customer in the end?

A: We listened to his whole story and were able to get comfortable with his overall situation based on his experience, connections, understanding of the industry, and equipment and the like.

Q: What advice do you have for other customers who have a similar profile?

A: When you have an opportunity to grow and expand your business that truly makes sense, find someone who will actually listen to your story and will consider all strengths and weaknesses in an effort to help you overcome any potential roadblocks or shortcomings. Then, share as much detail as you can with them to help them understand why you are a good risk.  If you don’t already have a relationship with someone like this, please give us a call!

Next week we will check in with another finance officer to continue to provide you with insight in to our processes. Stay up to date and learn more from our valuable resources at www.AmericanEFS.com/The-Bottom-Line